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>>497
Woops forgot the suit

>>569
>its still hard see what this means

Based. I think there's been intentional room left for the person interacting with Path B to see how they
relate to it and what emerges amount of contacting Path B's propositions.

What kind of things do you picture OP when thinking about "exiting a dying civilization"?

>>570
>amount
out of*

dammit

What do you think Path B is, OP?

about 250 packs of cigarettes and fist sized ball of del gold tobacco seeds so i never have to buy any more cigs again.

Good, so what didja get from this book? Any special ideas beyond being a 300+ pages expansion on the title?

Be verbose. Don't be so sub-process.

>>561

None of it was new to me, but I'll put it this way. David Wallace-Wells' "The Uninhabitable Earth" or Kolbert's "The Sixth Extinction" (or hell, even "Desert") is better at articulating the consequences of global heating. Cesaire, Fanon, and Freire are better at explaining why dehumanization is both a necessary element for, and outcome of, violence and colonialization. Gorz, Latouche, and Illich are better at describing the economic, industrial, and social changes that need to be initiated to avert ecological collapse, and Kallis, Muraca, and especially Parrique have a better job in the last decade of consolidating those guys and presenting them under the broader banner of "degrowth." Kimmerer, Ocalan, Graeber, and Bookchin are far better at illustrating the links between ecology, reciprocity, solidarity, and the ethic of community versus domination. But none of those people were able to collect everybody else into one text as Hickel does in LIM.

As for "special ideas," again, there's nothing in it that isn't in other degrowth texts.The usual grab-bag is present: Ban advertising and manufactured obsolescence, shorter work week, campaign finance reform, wealth tax, debt jubilee, regenerative agriculture, more worker cooperatives. It's all very dependent on State power. Hickel seems to be under the assumption that popular political action can change the course of world governance, which, we're all on this site, so I guess I know what we think about that.

But it's still useful. For me, Path B IS direct democracy, reciprocity, sustainability, commons, decommodification, and solidarity, and the degrowth movement people are doing the best job of promoting that right now.

>>551
Hey, they also do hobby gardening, tool shares, and community dinners! The state designates these activities and all who perpetrate them as public enemy number one. It is better that this stuff be kept under wraps, you never know when an agent will wander in to share some vegetables or join the 50,000th attempt at doing a reading group on "Caliban and The Witch".

>>552 earnest question, why are you here?

>>553

I don't wanna answer for 552 but I think you commies are taking yourselves wayyyy too seriously.

>>554 trips says maybe it's you who are talking yourself way too seriously

>>555

trip says no u

>>541
Where are we supposed to buy land for communes? Am I supposed to go back to Europe? I guess if I don't belong here I'll leave.

>>544
it's not about BUYING land that's a pretty settler mindset that you should work on. It's about respecting indigenous people and the land. try talking to local tribes and councils as a first step.

>>545
Oh sorry I forgot this site is all 18 year olds who think that they are going to seize land in some global upheaval. Yeah yeah yeah, you know who else put forward this idea that we are just going to squat everything? German Autonomists in the 80s who put all of their efforts into seizing squats and land as their main politic. Where are they now you might be wondering? Hmmmm, good question.

There is always some global upheaval that is going to make the occupation turn into something real but it is all a larp, everyone who does the kind of projects Inhabit is all about BUYS the land they are making use of. Pretending that they don't, or pretending that you are going to squat and not have it seized a year later is retarded. This is just the practical reality of the situation, and you can larp about fantasy alternatives that might happen in the future, but we don't live there, we live here under capital.

>try talking to local tribes and councils as a first step.

Oh yeah that is really the solution huh? Inhabit-centric folks do talk and work with local tribes all the time, one of the first community dinners I ever went to was literally hosting local tribes people and talking about building connections between the two projects while sharing food together. Lot of good that does when randos on the internet write hit pieces about you anyway like in the above article. I guess the actual work you do in private makes no difference whatsoever when random people on IGD will just write gibberish reviews critiquing your projects for not doing something WE LITERALLY FUCKING DO.

>>546
> Yeah yeah yeah, you know who else put forward this idea that we are just going to squat everything? German Autonomists in the 80s who put all of their efforts into seizing squats and land as their main politic. Where are they now you might be wondering? Hmmmm, good question.

Indeed, you know Jack Shit about the subject.

> pretending that you are going to squat and not have it seized a year later is retarded

No u.

So have fun becoming the landlords! But keep in mind that failure to pay taxes also means seizure of "your" land by municipalities, and in the context of FARM land, many governments got harsh demands that push for commercialization of crops.

You.

Pathetic.

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>>546

Hey, silly

Good to know that you can use your admin privilege for removing comments that call on your ill-informed bullshitting of the squat movement in Europe.

Again, don't talk about stuff you know so little about, kay?

>>520
You aren't a member of the reading group, please leave this thread, only members are talking amongst themselves.

>>521

Wtf… so then make this thread private, dumb bitch!

>>518
>>522
The glow is strong with these replies

>>516
The whole night sky thing was neat
>>And even buried under millions and millions of bits, pixels, lies and pain, betrayals and tears..
I smell bloom

>>521
Can we move on to a new article? This one is so dry i found sand in my panties

>>539
Only if we take a vote first this is a democracy.

>>526
I dont think you have to try and scramble to do any anarcho or commie prepperism

Is there anything you do in life that gives you some kind of small joy?

>>528

I dunno. I struggle a lot with depression, which I guess came out in that post, and one of the biggest manifestations of that is anhedonia. I like to handload ammunition, which is a fun hobby, but it's expensive. I like to listen to podcasts about social ecology. I like to make lists of all the flashlights and multitools I'd like to buy someday. Part of it is definitely a clash between what I want to do (very little, as a rule) and what I feel like I OUGHT to want to do–go out, organize, radicalize, etc. This leads to intense feelings of both guilt and shame for not doing enough.

>>530

So go do it, you clearly won't feel better until you self-actualize on the things you want to do. There really isn't going to be much better advice, everyone is suffering from depression now, and I've tried everything to make it better. In reality a lot of depression doesn't get better until you self-actualize and the only way to do that is to force yourself to do things. There is no easy solution, and any solution peddled to you that sounds easy isn't going to work.

>>532

To clarify, you're saying "just do it" to the mutual aid and community gardens and not to spending all my money on flashlights and gun lube?

>>534

Anything that involves you participating socially with other people on some work. What that specifically is, is completely agnostic honestly. You say you don't participate in mutual aid and community gardens, maybe you don't actually like gardening all that much? A lot of people lie to themselves about what they enjoy.

Pick something that you actually like and try to turn that into something participatory maybe. Like you said you like reloading ammo? Maybe set up a monthly training on reloading, or random talks on tearing down and maintaining guns. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to share your skillset with other people in a way that provides them value. And then in turn when they have some shit to share with you, you participate in their shit. Just showing up to mutual aid shit is half the battle.

Mao had some gamer moments

>>529

BIG gamer brochads. indeed, comrade!

>>510
>How queer are you

I fucking hate every branch of the federal government and think catboys are based, so pretty queer I guess