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agriculture is the literal foundation of civilization. this doesn't change because a bunch of smelly white hippies write books about it
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Glad you agree!


Ag refers to massified cultivation; mass production of particular food products. this will always require surplus labor (even if it is crystalized in tractors, seeders, threshers). Companion planting, no-till, biodynamic farming, etc. (what I assume op's hippies are writing about) has use for horticulturists but ultimately is applied mostly to organic agriculture which is on a scale that still depends on modern forms of slavery.
ag = civ


>>33 ""Growing shit" is an industrial mining process."

Holy fuck, this is loaded.

So if I grow a few plants by my room's window, I'm doing industrial mining. Better get on the stock exchange soon!

Also learn more about "com-mu-ni-ca-ting online", stupids. You guise read like a bunch of 12 year olds.


Lmao wut



So stop eating if you don't like it, oh wait.

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video: https://twitter.com/animal0lovers/status/1325417210882371584
anyone know more about this particular tarp condensation technique or where its being used? and/or your fav extremely sick lo tek innovations and interventions!


Cannot point to specifics at the moment but this group publishes the coolest shit on low-tech solutions: https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/


>low tech mag
King shit anon. I

I'm not sure I'm in the right climate for condensation tarp stuff. Is that suited more for more temperate or tropical areas?


seems like it should work anywhere theres any amount of dew, which is like most places i think? you just gotta knock it down before the sun evaporates it all off again so probably requires an early morning round with a handful of tennis balls or sticks and a solid throwing arm

+>9000 on lowtech mag. its a solar powered website too, and they made a print ‘book’ as a backup to access the website when its cloudy outside of barcelona and the servers are down ;)


Moisture farming. It's being increasingly used in very hot and usually dry environments like around the Med, both African and southern Spain, where they just started realizing they could retrofit those awful massive greenhouses into moisture farms (but there are still many idiots over there who just won't, because).

It appears to be working by trapping soil moisture under a tarp that blocks humidity while creating a condensation effect with solar heating. A good way to make relatively clean water, even tho it might take long.

Pretty inefficient in other hemispheres as it seems to require a lot of solar heat.

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Got any good ideas on what to start encouraging/promoting for a hearty protein source in the midwest? Nuts? Lots of Nuts?
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please feel free that sounds great, what is this


Civilisation ain't the problem, mate, unless you're defining any group of people with an organizing ethos a "civilisation."


Tf is "organizing ethos" supposed to mean
Civilization is


primmie can't into computer

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what are you gonna drink in the morning once climate change has destroyed coffee production and it costs $50/bag?

pic related
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On the West coast, the nuts of the Bay Laurel are a really nice for a coffee-like beverage. Collect them in the early Fall, dry and roast them, grind the meats into a powder. Pretty high caffeine content too, with yerba mate (yaupon relative) has curbed my need for getting coffee recently.


This is really interesting, I had no idea the fruits of California bay laurel were even edible! Though it sounds like the caffeine thing might actually be a myth?



At the very least, they have some good nutritional value and high fat content.
Thanks for the fact check!


Non-pozzed version of that link for the gamers


Yaupon was a kind of a large underground plant meme when I lived below the mason-dixen.
Never tried the drink though, is it any good?


I've only had it from one source, but it's pretty decent IMO. If you brew it like a tea, it tastes a lot like yerba mate. You can also brew it by simmering it for 5 minutes, which weirdly (in my experience) mellows the flavor but makes it a lot darker and fuller-bodied, which is nice if you're actually going for a coffee replacement vibe.

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I really want to know about chestnut trees
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this should be in the sticky tbh


just read this guy's twitter



glad to see this guy is widely known


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>>11 +1! I wonder if he would come chat here. i bet yes. his twitter is a fucking encyclopedia at this point tho

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wondering what insights, experiences, resources people might have re: arid lands. Going to dump some books I've found helpful below.

(pic related is first - Rainwater Harvesting for Drylands & Beyond by Brad Lancaster)


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Permaculture: a Designer's Manual

about 1/5 of this tome is a section on various strategies for deserts, whether they're arid grasslands, dune fields, or rocky expanses. Most of the rest (pattern understanding, climate, etc.) can be applied directly to any place, and elements of the temperate, cold, and tropical sections can also be mined for information useful to our ends. just a good one to have in your toolkit for anybody!


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Sowing Seeds in the Desert

Fukuoka puts forward a provocative vision of an accelerated dispersal of species worldwide - suggesting that the best way to "repair" the runaway effects of anthropogenic disturbance and desertification would be to encourage "invasives" to naturalize, even when they outcompete native species


Land is arid for a reason

Time to go back to munke


Land is arid for a reason

Time to go back to munke


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a really accessible tour of some of the planet's most effective technologies for growing food in drylands, and the cultures they emerged with

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